[PROJETO] Polo Classic Vr6 Turbo 4Motion

gwsalles

Membro
Não sei como demorei tanto pra abrir esse tópico.. Pqp, que animal! To louco pra ver o final dessa história, vai ficar foda. Meu objetivo é fazer algo parecido com meu A4 B5, mas se fosse pra fazer um swap, acho que eu ia tentar um 5cil 2.2. Por enquanto fica só no sonho huasahusahsuuhas
 

gabrielm

Novato
eu tive um polo classic. nunca tive problemas com o carro.....é um carro muito legal. hoje em dia já ta cada vez mais difícil achar um inteiro..eu tive aquela serie com airbag e teto solar....um azul...

vou por só link das fotos pra quem tiver curiosidade em ver....pra não poluir aqui..

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é, não tenho costume de baixar meus carros. :heiehei:


agora esse ai ta o demo mesmo...quero ver!!!
 

Amabur

Membro
Caralho, sem palavras mesmo...muito legal a iniciativa de adaptar uma tração dessas !! Boa sorte no projeto!

Quero ver isso ao vivo depois ahahahahahaha
 

DoDo!

Novato
Parabéns MESMO ! Que projeto FODA !

Acho que é o projeto mais foda que eu já vi no Brasil, na minha opinião !

Onde mandou fazer o revestimento do painel ? é alcantara ? Abraço !
 

korvocore

Membro
Mais fotos??? hehehe, ja tem muitas fotos aqui e no face. O motor não mudou nada, to mexendo na suspensão traseira por enquanto.






 
Que projeto top! Vc começou a postar o projeto lá no Siclub e parou... Agora da pra acompanhar daqui... Tb tou vendo no flatout.
Parabéns e sucesso!!!
 

korvocore

Membro
Tração ja tem um tempo q está finalizada, agora estamos na parte chata, fiação e linha de combustivel...


Essas fotos ai são de antes de acabar totalmente.






 

Cfacioli

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@[member="korvocore"]

Excelente projeto!

Me diz uma coisa... vc vai usar a haldex para conectar ao diferencial traseiro ou vai deixar ligado direto? Pelo que vi, vc vai usar um gerenciador a parte para controlar a injeção, e a central original do Polo não deve ter nada para controlar a bomba do haldex. Se for usar ela como em S3 por exemplo, sendo gerenciada eletronicamente, como vc vai fazer?
 

korvocore

Membro
Vou usar um cotrolador Standalone Alemão, ele é bem complexo, faz bastante coisa.

Off Mode

The Haldex controller is deactivated and by this, haldex clutch is completely open. The car responds in vehicle dynamics like a front wheel drive vehicle. Is the Haldex controller switched OFF, only boost pressure with max boost recall is shown on the display.

Street Mode

The locking level in street mode is programmed to a set level and depends on speed and boost pressure of front 95 %, back 5 % to front 50 %, back 50 %. Only by this it is warranted that for every driving situation there is optimum traction. Dynamic control makes it possible to gain speed, e.g. on wet roadway, because rear axle is being engaged even before boost pressure is build up. If speed increases, e.g. on an interstate, there is no necessity to supply much power on the rear axle. By doing this, locking level is reduced to 5 % on the rear axle with wide open throttle. Consequently, unnecessary frictional resistance is reduced as well as consumption. Letting go of the accelerator, and boost pressure falls below -0,5 bar, Haldex clutch is being opened completely and the vehicle responds like a front wheel drive vehicle.

Since the Haldex controller recognizes current speed via GALA speed signal, we defined several speed ranges. The processor recognizes one of those and adapts locking level in relation to the current boost pressure. The speed ranges have been set with due regard to power and gear transmission ratio of most vehicles retrofitted with 4-motion drive trains. In street mode, current locking level, speed and boost pressure are shown on the display.

If emergency brake is used or, to be more precise, stoplight switch is being activated, and by this, 4X4 drive is deactivated.

For dynamic control

Key data for dynamic control were collected during months and months of tests with several thousands of kilometers driven on a VW Corrado VR6 Turbo 4-motion with 474 PS / 640 NM. By this, all requirements concerning performance and safety on streets can be met.

Race Mode

The locking level in race mode can be adjusted from 0-100 % in steps of every 5%. This means that there is the possibility for maximum force distribution of 50 - 50%.

In difference to street mode, Haldex clutch in race mode is closed when reducing gas. By that, the vehicle has permanent four wheel drive regardless of boost pressure or speed. With the possibility to block the rear axle, behavior on the road changes drastically. Instead of understeering, as it is usually the case with 4-motion vehicles, the car can be brought to oversteer in a curve by quick load cycle changes. With this, even drifts are possible. This property is to be welcomed especially by weekend racers. In race mode, the set locking level is shown.

Haldex position ON/OFF

In race mode, there is the possibility to choose the tuning in the setup menu to activate the haldex clutch alternatively at 0 km/h or 20 km/h.

This answers the following purpose:

If Haldex controller is set on race mode and the Haldex clutch is closed, there is going to be tensioning in the drive train which will be noticeable in turning or parking. Unfortunately, this is due to technics in 4X4 vehicles and cannot be prevented well. We have found a possibility to activate Haldex clutch only at 20 km/h because in hobby-racetrack use, in most cases there are no starts with standing vehicles. In case there are any, you can activate race stand ON function and Haldex clutch is closed already at 0 km/h.

Quarter Mile Mode

Our quarter mile mode presents an absolute novelty in 4- motion sector. As first producer we can please the needs of 4- motion quarter mile vehicles. In the setup menu you can choose in steps of 5 km/h 0-375 km/h to adjust the locking level in steps of 1% 0-100%. This makes possible to take off from the start with 100% blocked rear axle and, gaining speed, 4X4 intensity can sink to 0%. It is possible to reach optimum traction without giving away power. Each vehicle has its relationship between weight and power, so onetime setting has to be done by the customer for every vehicle. Having finished setting, data are saved, but can be changed at every point in time, e.g. using other tires. The onetime driven curve can be increased or lowered by 50 % in 1% steps in setup menu. This makes quick and uncomplicated reaction to changes of the roadway like wet roadway, ground waves or pasted track possible. Optimum grip is always guaranteed without giving away power. By this mode, racing cars can make optimum use of the benefits of the 4X4 drive in quarter mile. At the start, full traction is guaranteed and at higher speed levels, frictional loss is reduced, resulting in higher terminal velocity. You will always be one step ahead of your competitors!

If emergency brake is used or, moreover, stoplight switch is being activated, Haldex clutch is opened and by this, 4X4 drive is being deactivated. When emergency brake is put on, burnouts are possible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnpB8ZLy_dI
 
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